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Using VideoPhones in hearing person's office?

In this ASL Vlog David wants to know if any of you have had experience seeing or using a VideoPhone in an hearing person's office?

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LaRonda said...

I haven't tried this, but I would be interested to learn if the VP interpreters can do this or if there are rules that say they must only interpret phone calls.

I once had my father-in-law call me on his cell phone to test out VRS on VP. He was sitting in my living room while I was in the office on my VP. I let the VRS interpreter know that and the interpreter told me that it was not allowed. He said for future use, I had to call someone outside of my home for VRS to interpret. They couldn't be in the same house as me.

So let me know if you find out if this has changed or not.

Thanks.

~ LaRonda

Anonymous said...

I think there is one VP at SLC airport but am not sure. It could be Chicago.

College here do have VP. One hospital have one too.

Anonymous said...

I have seen and use VP at VR office, College, Interpreter Office, etc.

Anonymous said...

In Respone to LaRonda,

Right, cant call in the same house but as long you don't tell interpreter about someone using a phone in same place even tell your father inlaw not to say that your in same house. I know several pple using it to help communicate with their family that they couldn't express in person so use VRS....

Anonymous said...

In regards to being in the same room, I believe the law actually says that you cannot be in the same room. Nothing says you cannot be in the same building or house. For example, I can call my brother from my bedroom if he is in the kitchen. As long as it is a separate room, you are fine. If a VRS interpreter claims otherwise, ask to speak with a supervisor.

Anonymous said...

Hi, David,

Finished using VRS on VP here while someone else used their cell phones (different phone lines) in the same roof. It worked. It had to be kept secret, tho.

Anonymous said...

I think, it is againist FCC poilicy about using VRS within people in the same room. However, we need to see how VRS can be useful for us to communicate with a doctor when an interpreter isn't available or won't be provided.

David, thank you for bring up this issue

NavyBeagle said...

Your Vlog is based on VRI. Not VRS.

I could do the research more from multiple VRS providers but it seems show that all companies have all in commons. Unfortunately, you can’t do that. I would suggest you to have hearing person to use his Cell phone in order to communicate with you via VRS. You don’t have to tell Video Interpreter that you are calling someone that is less than just outside of your picture window. Just keep your hands zipped! 


Here is copied and pasted from Hamilton FAQ--(http://www.hamiltonrelay.com/support/faq/videorelay/essential.htm) question # 8.

A. No. VRS and VRI are not the same. With VRI, the Deaf or HOH person and the hearing person are in the same room and use an Interpreter who is located elsewhere. With VRS, the Deaf or HOH person and the hearing person are in different locations and communicate over the telephone through an Interpreter. This service is for VRS only.


Here is copied and pasted from Sorenson FAQ--
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Does Sorenson VRS accept Video Remote Interpreting (VRI) calls?
No, Sorenson VRS only supports video relay calls where the video relay interpreter, hearing individual, and deaf or hard-of-hearing individual are all located in three (3) separate locations. Sorenson VRS is not meant to be a substitute for Video Remote Interpreting (VRI). On a VRI call, both the deaf and hearing individuals are located in the same room and the interpreter is in a remote location. With Sorenson VRS, the deaf individual and the hearing individual are in two (2) different locations and are connected through a Sorenson VRS interpreter located at one of the Sorenson VRS call centers.

However, Sorenson Communications, the company that provides Sorenson VRS now offers Sorenson Video Remote Interpreting (VRI). This is a separate fee-based service that enables deaf and hearing individuals who are in the same location to easily conduct conversations through a video remote interpreter, via videophone technology and a high-speed Internet connection. To conduct a VRI call, simply set up an account and schedule an appointment with Sorenson VRI. Sorenson VRI assists companies and organizations to comply with the current Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) regulations. For more information about Sorenson VRI, please visit www.sorensonvri.com.

Anonymous said...

The policy appears to be set up because companies might avoid the expense of an interpreter by abusing the VP system. The rule as explained to me by the Sorenson technican was that one could not be in the same builder as the hearing person.

There is a different system where hospitals pay for the service and use VPs to communicate with patients in emergencies or where a live interpreter could not be found.

Anonymous said...

One teacher did used videophone in his classroom on parents day. There are not enough interpreter and he have to wait for interpreter but he decided to use videophone and communicate thru vrs. A lot of hearing parents love it since parents can see teacher's face express and body language while listen vrs. (i do support that idea but sad, it is illegal)

DeafKathy (Wilson) said...

FCC policy says person using VRS cannot contact anyone else in same room but they can use VRI (not free). However I did some investigating and found the clarification. We can use VRS to contact hearing person if it is not visible to the interpreter which mean I can call my co-worker in different floor or next bay from where I work. We cannot do if the co-worker (or hearing person) sitting next to me using VRS but with VRI is OK. Feel free to contact FCC to explain you the clarification and get the section # of the policy handy incase if VRS interpreter says you can't.

Anonymous said...

You can't do that if you tell the interpreter!!

You can do it if the interpreter doesn't know! :)

To make an easier way for them, add the webcam and use 'em!

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Domvera said...

Hi David,

Your issue brought my thoughts about VRS in the same room or hearing environment.

Seldomly at my work, I use VP to communicate with my employees at the different phone lines when the interpreter is not around. It is very convenience to use VP at any time.

Like NavyBeagle mentioned about the hospitals providing VRI for emergency rooms where the interpreter is unable to be available. Because of the time promptly, they provide deaf/hard of hearing patients with their faciliating communication by using VRI.

I understand that Sorenson provides VRI for Corportations, Financial Institutions, Schools, Government Organizations, Rehabilition Centers. You may visit their website address for more info: http://www.sorensonvri.com/what/

My former Vocational Rehabiliton counselor currently have his own VP in his office to communicate with their clients, who attends Gallaudet University and NTID/RIT, to inquiry the update of their academic performance to remain their financial support. Once a time, we connected each other to discuss about my case. It's very conveience to use VP very much.

Perhaps, your college should provide VP booths for Deaf/Hard of Hearing students to use. Otherwise you could use your own VP to communicate with your colleagues at the same building or campus.

For your next vlog, please let us the update of VP at your college. Good Luck! Thank you!

Nick Vera

Unknown said...

Intersting question and I am glad you brought it up.

From one of my three experiences, I have used this VP in classroom, of course using the webcam, because I don't want to carry those big equipments around... I wanted to demonstrated these to my ASL classes to give them hand on applications as to future interpreters, etc.

One of the questions arised during the process, the interpreter asked if the whole concept was used in the same room, I replied "yes" and wanted to demonstrate, immediately the interpreter told me that they cannot continue with this service and shut down immediately. So it was obviously (the noise in the background in the same room was picked up by the interpreter where students talking/stating the teacher did this and that to show them, so the interpreter decided to ask about it) where I later learned it's the policy that VRS and VRI are not the same, per se.

So now I decided to invite one of the VRS servers representative to come to my class and give a presentation and let them demonstrate it. (It was better since they can use their voices to explain stuffs).

Anonymous said...

Yes, there is one at Post Office where I work. Some deaf employees were complaining about not enough privacy because the hearing employees tend to peek through the curtain while deafies use VP so the management of PO decided to put the door to the booth. I guess the deafies are satisified with it.

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Anonymous said...

yes in school when i VPed with a friend. my friend said huh? are u in the school library? i said yes my hearing college provides two VPs in the school library. when i need some help. i VP my friends to tutor me for my assignments.

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